A Challenge to Chicano Rappers

Something that has always vexed me is the act of laying claim to Chicano identity without bearing any political responsibilities or consciousness. To me, Chicanos don’t always have to be Mexican-Americans but the line in the sand is that calling yourself Chicano is identifying with a leftist political ideology. That’s why it burns my ass to no end that there is a genre of Hip-Hop known as Chicano Rap that is all but devoid of politics.  The only references to identity in most Chicano Rap albums has to do with identifying as a Norteño or Sureño aside from vague references to “Brown Pride.” At this point in our political culture the idea of “Brown Pride” has been exhausted of its political meaning and we’ve now progressed way beyond it.

Pop in almost any mainstream Chicano Rap album and you’re more than likely to hear stories of popping caps, being king of the block, representing a clicka, slanging ‘caine, getting respect, and other acts of depoliticized patriarchal bullshit. Despite all of these Chicano rappers trying to out-badass each other there’s one person that’s got them all beat. That person is one Ms. Lily Allen.

These Chicano Rappers aint got shit on me

"These Chicano Rappers ain't got shit on me"

This weekend I was cycling through Lily Allen songs on my ipod while riding on a train to San Jose and came across Nan, You’re a Window Shopper. The song is Lily Allen’s version of 50 Cent’s Window Shopper. It’s a cheeky diss track against Allen’s own grandmother. What’s so revolutionary about it is that the song covers territory that’s essentially forbidden to Chicano Rappers. Think about it, Chicano Rap songs are filled with predictable tropes of  violence and nostalgia but even the most baddest of cholos still hold some things sacred. Lily Allen was brave enough to break one of our most basic social conventions and for that she is more dangerous than any Chicano Rapper.

Question: Despite all the hyper-masculine posturing, can you ever picture any of these supposedly hardcore Chicano Rappers cutting a track against their own dear abuelitas?

The bar has been set by Lily Allen. I dare any of you calling themselves Chicano Rappers to reach for it. Put up or shut the fuck up.

Sincerely,

Rio

58 thoughts on “A Challenge to Chicano Rappers

  1. I wonder how does one get the authority to use “brown pride”? I am an India, brown skinned. There are at least 1.5 billion like me in south east asia. Infact, brown is probably the most “popular” skin color in the world – all of Latin America, Middle East, South Asia is brown.

    Maybe we should band up.

    • Bradlogs, My family is Mexican American, we have brown Mexicans and light skinned Mexicans in our family, I’m talking Blue, Green eyes, red hair Mexicans.. The term brown pride was created during the 1960’s however not all of us are brown. I agree with you… brown probably is the most papular skin color! It is 2011 and we should stop labeling ourself and others!

      • Ola can you help? What up, I was asking about finding books on the social history of the Aztecs so that I can carry on designing my sleeve, I have reached to the point where I have had to stop due to lack of information, how I design my sleeve is the same as everyone else, I read the history then illustrate it, as I was saying I am trying to find in depth knowledge of conflict and heroic stories without the geography of buildings information of the Aztecs can anyone suggest what to read?

  2. watz up mi hente shit like 4realz u guys are the shit man i would do any thing just to rap like u n my homgurl miss krazie well got to go just showing some love to all my homies oh n u guy!!!!:] peace out!

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  4. My mother is half Awarwak Indian half German quarter I will not say , no I do not say I am Chicano but I do say soy Guerrero de Mexcoatl since the first day I was downed with hoarding groups of gringo hating south Americans as youth , I totally like Chicano art and ink being more or less covered in Hispanic ink about the Mesoamerican pagan theology I am right in the middle of designing my sleeve after my deed from Axayacatl the scourge backwards any body has any good book tittles from Montezuma back nothing after after the conquistadores well nothing about them at all, recommendation for book titles would be well appreciated Axayacatl as all of us know is Montezuma father that is how I desigbn my ink I read the Azteca/Inca/Mayan/Olmec histroy abnd design the work I have re4caehed a stop so any one can suugeset titles send them to sangredefraternidad@hotmail.co.uk
    muchos grasias

  5. What up, I was asking about finding books on the social history of the Aztecs so that I can carry on designing my sleeve, I have reached to the point where I have had to stop due to lack of information, how I design my sleeve is the same as everyone else, I read the history then illustrate it, as I was saying I am trying to find in depth knowledge of conflict and heroic stories without the geography of buildings information can anyone suggest what to read?

  6. Things are often on a need to know basis so I guess this a need to know matter. I have no intention of insulting the Chicano gang La Sangre I am simply writing this to clear up rumors formulation here in England. First I do not disupute the way La Sangre put it down out there in the US, how could I? I am writing this to make my point concerning the Chincano gang La Sangre with me not writing this to insult them just writing what I need to say about being here and the ink our club/gang/fraternity using the word Sangre as the second part of our ink in name Sepitimo De Sangre. First of all we’re Pagan born by name, Septimo meaning seventh representing the letter G for Guerrero which translated form Spanish means Warrior the Second word Sangre translated from Spanish is blood and anyone who is anyone knows that the word Sangre (Blood) is synonymous in used in the rites, rituals and ceremonies of the Warrior to be exact our ink being based on the Mexican Indian/Red Indian Blood rites each warrior has to be blooded in an act of battle before he must rightfully earn the right to wear the words of the Warrior Septimo.
    Septimo Sangre ways are varied in which a member is blooded into warrior hood through obscure and old ways dating back to the Red Indian/Mexican Indians rites of manhood and warrior hood, each member being blooded in a an act of violence, it is worth noting at this part of the writings that the word act is not meant in the superficial way but actually in the way of physical violence, saying again Sangre (Blood) is synonymous with used way of the Indian warriors pre-dtaing all modren traditions and is worth remembering that blut in the Norse tongue is also used by the Western European Viking warrior ways though much to a different belief and to a different extent for a different belief, going back the the term of Septimo De Sangre tremed Septimo Sangre the Warrior of Blood at anytime it not intended to infringe on the Chicano gang La Sangre or as they are termed at time Sangre, a completely different meaning with us being born under the generic use of the term Pagan.
    In addition to terminology the numbers used for us Septimo Sangre (819) eight being the eighth number of the alphabet being G for Guerrero (Warrior) and nineteen being the nineteenth letter of the alphabet being S for Sangre ( Blood) depicting the use of the word Warrior Of Blood (819) In addition to explanation the words Septimo De Sangre or Septimo Sangre is correctly formed and has been worn by us since the year 2000, I am sure this will clear up any misunderstanding and put the record strait. and I say for the hunt Mexcoatl and Yatahay to the warriors. (También ninguna ofensa nosotros no golpeamos y ningún desafío) (819)

  7. Yes will i can see how that burns your ass lots of people laying claim to Chicano identity, however that is exactly what i am not doing, the reason i chose to use Spanish is language is that it made foreign the use the tongue and strongly accounted & associated itself with the pagan world Mexican Indian/American Indian point of reference the generic terminology of pagan identity has a wide scope not being Nordic and without offence in this part of the world (ie) the United Kingdom our use of ink involving the word Sangre (Blood) is not Christ born and will not hold allegiance to Christ not withstanding the fact that I have no offence to those choosing to follow Christ that I am akin to the work of many saint our lady of Gualampe being one, here in England and Europe their have been chapter called Outlaw Banditos and Bandidos, as a point of example though not liked the Tijuana Angels are not liked by the 81 and such likes hence us drawing our influence from the Indian could not make it work any other way since for instance the nahuatl language uses up to three letters for the explanation of one character which would make the whole design conferring Warrior Blood up to forty letters in two words and there is not enough space on the body to ink that up so we (meaning the dictionary term of plural many and not some half arsed southern abuse of the word) simplified

    Things are often on a need to know basis so I guess this a need to know matter. I have no intention of insulting the Chicano gang La Sangre I am simply writing this to clear up rumors formulation here in England. First I do not disupute the way La Sangre put it down out there in the US, how could I? I am writing this to make my point concerning the Chincano gang La Sangre with me not writing this to insult them just writing what I need to say about being here and the ink our club/gang/fraternity using the word Sangre as the second part of our ink in name Sepitimo De Sangre. First of all we’re Pagan born by name, Septimo meaning seventh representing the letter G for Guerrero which translated form Spanish means Warrior the Second word Sangre translated from Spanish is blood and anyone who is anyone knows that the word Sangre (Blood) is synonymous in used in the rites, rituals and ceremonies of the Warrior to be exact our ink being based on the Mexican Indian/Red Indian Blood rites each warrior has to be blooded in an act of battle before he must rightfully earn the right to wear the words of the Warrior Septimo.
    Septimo Sangre ways are varied in which a member is blooded into warrior hood through obscure and old ways dating back to the Red Indian/Mexican Indians rites of manhood and warrior hood, each member being blooded in a an act of violence, it is worth noting at this part of the writings that the word act is not meant in the superficial way but actually in the way of physical violence, saying again Sangre (Blood) is synonymous with used way of the Indian warriors pre-dtaing all modren traditions and is worth remembering that blut in the Norse tongue is also used by the Western European Viking warrior ways though much to a different belief and to a different extent for a different belief, going back the the term of Septimo De Sangre tremed Septimo Sangre the Warrior of Blood at anytime it not intended to infringe on the Chicano gang La Sangre or as they are termed at time Sangre, a completely different meaning with us being born under the generic use of the term Pagan.
    In addition to terminology the numbers used for us Septimo Sangre (819) eight being the eighth number of the alphabet being G for Guerrero (Warrior) and nineteen being the nineteenth letter of the alphabet being S for Sangre ( Blood) depicting the use of the word Warrior Of Blood (819) In addition to explanation the words Septimo De Sangre or Septimo Sangre is correctly formed and has been worn by us since the year 2000, I am sure this will clear up any misunderstanding and put the record strait. and I say for the hunt Mexcoatl and Yatahay to the warriors.

  8. Further more to the somewhat lengthy comment I just made. In 2004 in the practice of letting those who need to know where your @ I took the liberty of notifying the Angels 81 and BA here that our ink is not a bike gang and based on Paganism, I also had the audacity to tell the police the same thing LOL in less deserving manner, that the Septimo Sangre, (Warror Blood) is based on Paganism/Satanism at this point it is worth anyone reading that there is a change of management we have done away with the nonconformist method of Satanism due to it’s matriarchal influence and that fact that I would rather be offing up in her than have her act like me and further more yet again there will be another change which will make you all more pleased and that is all I will be saying, so until whenever. (87)

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